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with me at let's keep that conversation going on twitter as well at sanjaygupta cnn. time to get you a check of your top stories in the cnn newsroom. from cnn woshld headquarters in tlapt. >> it's a tragedy. it's a tragedy for the nation. it's a tragedy for the agency. >> reporter: harassing emails. a second woman involved. scandal unfolding on election day. we'll bring you details on the affair that brought down the most powerful spy chief in america. $7 trillion in tax increases and spending cuts. and the threat of another recession. that's the fiscal cliff that looms ahead. 51 days away. >> reporter: they're our fathers, other mothers, our sons and daughters. this veterans day we honor the heroes that fight for america's
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freedom. sfwlimplt good morning. happy veterans day. i'm randi kaye. we start with new details on the scandal that led to the resignation of cia director general david petraeus. >> the woman who wrote the biography was sending harassing emails to another woman close to the cia director that prompted the fbi to investigate. also we know from that source that the investigation led to the discovery of e-mails between broadwell and petraeus that indicated the affair.
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more details are coming out about the timeline of events and when u.s. officials were notified of the circumstances of this investigation. the fbi informed the director of national intelligence james clapper about the investigation on tuesday night, election night. just as some polls were beginning to close. that director clapper as a friend, colleague, fellow officer and admirer urged petraeus to step down from his position. we know as well from that intelligence source that director clapper informed the white house about the investigation on wednesday and then on thursday the director and -- the questions now, of course, will focus on this second woman. who was she? what was the nature of her relationship with petraeus, and what more do officials know about the nature of those emails between broadwell and this other woman? maybe some of those questions will be answered as the oversight committees now begin
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to pose questions of their own over this investigation and why they weren't informed of it until just hours before director petraeus sent notice of his resignation andle reason behind it. general petraeus was originally scheduled to testify this week to congress in a hearing on the attack in benghazi libya. won't now. though, some are saying that's a mistake. acting director michael morrell will take over. cia chief michael hayden explains why. >> i smn people are saying that they were hopeful that general petraeus personally would testify, but, frankly, you want the agency to testify. you want someone who is knowledgeable about the event, what the agency knew, what the agency did, and mike morrell is fully qualified to do that. at some later dade they may want general petraeus to come back in. i understand that.
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the hearings -- the cia will be there telling -- >> mike morrell is filling in as cia director until president obama chooses a permanent replacement. we can finally call florida for president obama. you can see that he won by just a hair over 70,000 votes. >> here is the matt. president obama ended with 332 electoral votes. mitt romney got 206, but the bigger machine really here was eight. that is the number of toss-up states captured by the president. that is a clean sweep. and while the presidential race is officially over in florida, one of the state's congressional races is still undecided. the latest totals show a close race between first term republican congressman alan west
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and his democratic challenger patrick murphy. with murphy edging west by a mere 2,400 votes, results will officially be certified next tuesday and while murphy has claimed victory, west has yet to concede. the west-murphy race is one of the most expensive for a house seat. the federal election commission and the center for responsive politics are reporting west raised $17 million through mid-october, while murphy raised $3.7 million. after scenes like this one where voters waited in long lines for hours, governor rick scott is ordering a review of what happened at the polls. in a state scott says, in part, we need to make improvements for florida voters, and it is important to look at processes on the state and the county level. we will carefully review suggestions for bettering the voting process in our state. the election is over, but mitt romney is finishing up some business as candidate romney writing his supporters a note of thanks.
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the message sent out this weekend read, in part, "this was more than just a campaign. this was a national movement. from the bottom of our hearts, ann and i thank you for your support, prayers, efforts, and vote. we are forever grateful to each and every one of you. today is a new day. keep believing in america." now to a developing story this morning. israeli soldiers have fired warning shots towards syria. israeli officials say it was retaliation for a mortar shell that hit near a military post in golan heights. the israeli-syrian border isn't too far from damascus. israeli's military says they've issued a complaint through the united nations. today we stop and take time to honor our veterans. ♪ and bright stars
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through the perilous fight ♪ >> parades and services are being held across the country to remember all the men and women who have served in our armed forces. >> you're looking at live pictures from arlington national cemetery. he will lay a wreath at the too many tomb of the unknown soldier, and the president will make a statement that happens at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. 51 days and counting. the deadline to make a deal and avert the so-called fiscal cliff less than two months away now. we'll tell you what's at stalk. you're watching cnn sunday morning. ♪
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i went into every detail of my plan. i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. president obama says he is willing to negotiate when it comes to the so-called fiscal cliff, and this week he will get his chance as he sits down with congressional leaders once again in a bid to cut the national deficit. the meeting could have implications for talks going forward. athena jones has more now from washington. >> it's time to get back to work. >> reporter: with the election in the rearview mirror, the focus in washington is back on efforts to avoid the economically devastating fiscal cliff. >> if we just go over the cliff and let those policies stay in effect, we're basically going to undo the recovery. metro party really wants to be blamed for that. >> reporter: the cliff amounts to $7 trillion in spending cuts and tax increases over the next decade. the threat of these painful cuts
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set to begin on january 1st is part of a deal congress and the president made last year to force them to agree on a long-term deficit reduction plan. >> this is a scenario that congress has said if we don't act, we're going to shoot ours. >> reporter: so far that long-term plan hasn't materialized. the biggest chunk of the cliff, the bush tax cuts. they're also a big sticking point. democrats say cuts for families making $250,000 or more must end. >> we're serious about reducing the deficit. we have to combine spending cuts with revenue, and that means asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more in taxes. >> reporter: republicans say that will hurt the economy. >> feeding the growth of government through higher tax rates won't help us solve the problem. >> reporter: but the speaker also signalled what could be an opening, saying raising more revenue is now on the table as
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long as it comes from tax reform and not higher rates. one thing that's clear. lawmakers want the president to be involved in any dealmaking. >> this is his opportunity to lead. >> reporter: and taxes aren't the only hang-up. congress also has to figure out how to reduce spending on entitlements like social security and medicare. those are the democrat's sacred cows. >> reporter: with the balance of poweren changed on capitol hill things could -- a shrt-term deal that postpones the clifr appears most likely. >> just give everybody a little bit of time, a little bit of breathing room to get back next year and think about what and exactly how you want to do this, and give everyone time to negotiate, quite frankly. >> it's sure to be a long and rocky road ahead. friday the president hosts a meeting with congressional leaders with both parties at the
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white house. randi. athena jones, thank you very much. congress isn't the only group concerned with balancing the budget. we'll introduce you to a group that's trying to teach fiscal responsibility to underserved communities. ♪ for some families veterans day is intensely personal. parades and flag-waving have their place, but nicki bunting sees veterans day through the eyes of her two small children who will never again see their father. her tribute? keeping his memory alive. this is her story. >> scoop it up. scoop it up. >> lacrosse is something that we both dreamed of watching our kids play. he really analyzes the game, and he plays it well, which is just like his dad.
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welcome back. 20 minutes past the hour. there are just 51 gaze left until we would go over the so-called fiscal cliff. that is the $7 trillion in automatic spending cuts and tax increases that could go into effect in january, so as washington contemplates its own
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fiscal responsibility, one group is hoping to make it work on a more personal level right at home. operation hope says its mission is to promote financial dignity in underserved communities, and joining me now is john hope bryant, the group's founder and serves on the president's advisory council on financial capability and former u.n. ambassador andrew young, a global spokesperson for operation hope. you are welcome to both of you. you are having a summit here in atlanta this week. tell me, first, john, about the group's mission and about the summit a little bit. >> well, our mission is very humbly trying to continue some work that dr. martin luther king was doing when he passed on to a better place. he was focused on the poor people's campaign in 1968, and his last book was where we go from here, chaos or community, and i think these are the same questions we're trying to answer right now. our mission is silver rights, not civil rights, but silver rights to make free enterprise and capitalism to work for the
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poor and i would argue they even view middle class today, you feel poor. if you are living in a major city, making less than $450,000, $50,000, $70,000 a year, living in a small town, making $25,000, $30,000 a year struggling to make ends meet, so folks living from paycheck to paycheck before the economic crisis, and whether you are white, black, red, brown, or yellow, you want to see some more green, so we think that financial dignity and financial literacy is a new civil rights issue. you don't understand the language of money, and you don't have a bank account, you're an economic slave. >> ambassador, what made you get involved in the project? >> dr. king's mission was to redeem the soul of america from the triple evils of racism, war, and poverty. >> that's more than a government proposition, and we found that we had to involve everybody in
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the free enterprises, and that was more money available in the free enterprise system. if we learn the language of money, as john says, and how the system works. >> how exactly what do you offer in terms of what i read from your website, there's literacy pramdz, there's help with credit, there's all kinds of things, right, for both the younger generations and adults. >> i mean, atlanta is the only international city in the south arguably because this man brought $70 billion worth of investments from the world here. we have moved credit scores 120, 140 points. like the man whose suit i'm wearing we made his dream available with a $35,000 loan, yes, but mostly capital in his head and in his heart by giving him financial literacy, by raising his credit scores and moving it from 550 credit score to 670. you do that, and inc. change
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somebody ae life. it's a predator lending customer. it's a title lending customer. those predator lenders are not racist. they're target marketing. move somebody to the 700 credit score, that's mainstream banking. >> obviously, you have seen the need. the need is great. why has it taken so long? why has it taken a group like this? >> well, it's taken a long time because for a long time we thought the government was doing it all. when i became mayor in 1980, though, i realize that i couldn't go to washington for money. i had to go to the private markets. money taught me that in school, and they sit around not knowing how to access capital. there's an excess of capital in today's world, and we're running deficits with a budget, and there's 21 trillion dollars in
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tax havens. when i became mayor there was about half a trillion dollars that i knew about in oil money, and i went to those capitals and invited them to come to atlanta and invest and made it easy for them to invest. we made it efficient. we made it honest. we made it virtually tax-free to get started. >> on your website, you say that you helped so many families help so many people that you're actually putting yourself out of business. that's the goal, right? >> yeah. i sometimes feel, though, that we're failing as we help more people. more people fall into a trap of needing help. i mean, we talk about this fiscal cliff. most of my clients are -- i mean, i'm confident president obama and congress will resolve this before the deadline, but most of my families are on the fiscal cliff every month. they've got too much month at the end of their money, and that's most american families. >> right. >> what we have got to do is to not cut, cut, cut, but grow, grow, grow. there is too much opportunity sitting on the sidelines in america. these are from poor
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neighborhoods we see. they're emerging markets. if we can move them from where they are increasing their credit score, make them job createors because most jobs come from start-u7s, you grow gdp and tax bases. the mayors have more money in their coughers to then spend hopefully responsibly. we've got to look at growing economy, figure out what we're for, versus cutting an economy, because we don't -- because we've lost our storyline. >> it's true. we talk so much about the fiscal cliff and focussing on washington, but it's very true. so many families have their own. >> i mean, we are going through so much technological change more in the last ten years than the world went through in the last century. >> very true. >> it's going to take us a while to adjust. >> we'll get there one way or the other. >> reserve chairman ben bernanke coming with us this week in our global summit to amplify the importance of financial dignity and professor young is
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co-chairing that. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. very important discussion. as we mentioned operation hope is hosting this summit, and the chairman ben bernanke will be the keynote speaker there. for more on operation hope, can you check out their website operation well, believe it or not 2016 is just around the corner. all right. pretty big corner. we admit that. it's never too early to start looking at the next presidential pain, dare i say that? we've got your first look. ee opy in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management
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welcome back to cnn sunday morning. i'm randi kaye. bottom of the hour now, and here are some of the stories we're watching this hour. we are tracking new details about the surprise rez iing nation of cia director david petraeus. a u.s. official says his extramarital affair came to light because of an e-mail investigation. it was spashed by a complaint of harassing emails allegedly send by paula broadwell, petraeus's biographer, to another woman close to petraeus. the official didn't name the woman or know the nature of her relationship with petraeus. bbc's director general george entwhistle is out of a job today. the leading news source in the midst of controversy in a report that accused a former high ranking politician of sex abuse. he called the resignation the honorable thing to do. the bbc has since apologized to
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that politician. two dead and dozens of homes in danger after two houses in indiana exploded. the exact cause hasn't yet been determined, but according to the lol fire department it looks like a gas explosion. 200 residents in the neighborhood were evacuated. rescue teams now looking for other victims. be sure to stay with us on this one. to politics now, and do you think it's too early to talk about 2016? we don't think so. republicans have to regroup and refocus while democrats have to decide who is next. could it be hillary clinton? this comes from the "new york times". every day people approach hillary clinton and tell her she has an obligation to run and give america its first woman president. being asked to run for president is kind of a side career all by itself. then there's this from politico. a new survey from public policy polling shows she's the frontrunner in iowa already. her biggest challenge in the poll comes from vice president george biden.
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that is just part of the 2016 story. paul stein hauzer has the rest of the equation. >> call it the neverending campaign. when one ends, the next begins. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him. >> i spoke to governor romney, and i congratulated him and paul ryan on a hard fought campaign. >> reporter: with the 2012 election barely in the rearview mirror, we're already thinking about the next road to the white house. marco rubio heads to iowa next weekend to headline a republican event. does the popular gop senator from florida have designs on running for the next republican nomination? a source close to rubio says that kind of talk is way too premature, but adds about the state that kicks off the caucus, it's always good to have friends in iowa.
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senators ran paul of kentucky and john thune of south dakota, former governor jeb bush of florida and rick santorum who battled mitt romney deep into this year's primaries. former governor mike hucka bewho ran for president four years ago and the past two republican running mates congressman paul ryan and sarah palin. as for the democrats, the vice president keeps dropping hints of running again for president. even though she keeps saying no to running, there are tons of democrats that hope she'll eventually say yes. as for new names keep your eyes on martin o'malley and new york governor andrew cuomo. ki keep going, but we don't have the time. if you think i'm jumping the gun, listen to this reputable guy. >> the political news jurnkys like me, it's too early to start thinking about iowa, new hampshire, and all of the rest. >> call this the beginnings of
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the preseason whether possible white house contenders write books, start out pacs, filibuster for candidates, and start building up friends in the early primary and caucus states. randy. >> paul stein hauzer, thank you very much. well, in some places you can be locked up, executed, or attacked for your religion, and our next guest wants to end that. suzanne johnson-cook, we'll talk about her mission to spread religious freedom worldwide. 0. 100% new. 100% mmm... wow, that is mmm... it's so mmm you might not believe it's a hundred calories. new yoplait greek 100. it is so good. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62%
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welcome back, everyone. our guest today for "faces of faith" has the daunting task of promoting religious freedom in 199 of the world's countries. not an easy task when you think about places like iran where a christian pastor was imprisoned for three years. youssef was sentenced to death just because of his religion. back in september the pastor was released from prison, in part, with help from the u.s. state department. this woman you may not have heard of. suzanne johnson-cook is the ambassador for international religious freedom, and she joins me now from washington. ambassador, good morning. tell me, first, about your role in helping free the pastor that we just mentioned. >> well, thank you very much for having me today. you know, our office was on it early in his jailing. not only did i and the international religious freedom write letters and the secretary
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of state also wrote a letter. we worked multi-laterally with other countries so that the attention could be brought to his case and certainly that he could be freed, and he has now been freed since the congress is also very much an integral part of it. he has been released, but there are many more names that are persecuted daily because of their beliefs. >> as we look at what your focus is, you have a great task ahead of you. will we ever see governments, do you think, fully protect religious liberty in the worst offending countries such as iran or north korea or saudi arabia, china? what do you think? >> well, unfortunately, my job will never be obsolete. we serve all 199 countries of the globe. our 2011 international religious freedom report was released, and unfortunately, there are many places are religious freedom is
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actually sliding backwards, but we continue to advocate for all the countries in the world. in 1948 there was a universal human rights declaration that was signed by the fwloeb, and so that is the standard to which we hold all countries. we continue to press some certainly violate more than others, but we continue to press governments with civil society, including religious leaders, and we will continue to press for the freedom of religion for all people. we have it in america as part of our, you know, constitution, and so many times we take it for granted, but there are many parts of the world even as we're speaking this morning where that is not happening. >> right. >> this year as you well know, we saw a lot of international hatred against the u.s. some of it because of that anti-muslim film, but how does all of that affect your mission if other countries see us here in the u.s. as intolerant? >> well, you know, we have freedom of speech and freedom of expression, and certainly sometimes our freedom of speech is not always good speech, but we counter that with other speech, which will ostracize and
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counter what people are doing. violence is never an option for us. we also have here in america the office of white house faith-based initiatives. we have a department of justice, and so we certainly on these shores have mechanisms to deal with the hatred and things that are happening here. unfortunately we use all the tools available to us. we have dip lot lowe mattic diplomacy. we have a report annually now that 2011 was just released, and we continued also to make grants so pa people can proin and out and advocate for religious freedom. we're on the frontlines and doing the work that can be done. i sit with many governments and leaders that are here. we work with our embassies and work with civil societies, those on the ground, those on the frontlines, and i was on the frontlines of 9/11, which was really where my first interest in religious freedom really came to a forefront because there
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we -- here in america we have to learn how to deal with religions that were different than ours, deal with extrechlism, and it's an og ongoing problem that cannot easily be solved. >> when you look at what's happened around the world, we had the whole arab spring movement. have you seen any improvement it does provide an opportunity for they're going to have women involved and coptic christians involved, and it provides an opportunity for us to see improvement, and we're hoping to hold them to those standards that they have expressed for themselves. >> ambassador suzanne johnson-cook, pleasure to chat with you this morning. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me.
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before the break i asked you if you knew the answer to this question -- who was the last third party candidate before this year to get a million or more votes in the presidential election? the answer?
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green party candidate ralph nader. he got 2.8 million votes in the 2000 election. ross perot holds the record for most third party votes all-time, though. thanks for all those tweets. been checking that twitter feed. you guys were busy. his resignation for the cia and the reason he gave for it have rocked washington. many calling the departure of general david petraeus a blow to the intelligence and military communities. what does it mean for national security? let's bring in cnn's state of the union host candy crowley. candy, good morning to you. senator dianne feinstein even wished president obama hadn't accepted the resignation. was there any other option for the president? >> i think had there been another option, had they seen that he could stay as head of the cia, they would have taken it. this was a very popular man both with republicans and democrats. he got into the limelight recently because of benghazi and
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the cia's role and what it did and didn't do. nonetheless, we are talking about a man, general petraeus, who has been very popular on both sides of the ooel. >> one of your guests today, peter king, told vnn that petraeus is a necessary witness for those hearings on benghazi. supposed that happen this week. his deputy director, though, we know, will now step in. what are the chances that petraeus will still be called, do you think, to testify? >> well, there are some congressmen that have heard and we talked to one who said we still want general petraeus to come, and there's certainly nothing that i know of that
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would keep him from coming and testifying as a private citizen, which he is now. i don't know, you know, legally what he might do or what they might do, but, i mean, there's nothing that prevents that per se, so if they really felt that the general's testimony was need needed. >> united nations one has to assume has the same knowledge, certainly. the deputy director one would think would have the same knowledge about this particular tragedy in benghazi, but we'll see as we move forward. as you know, there's lots of hearings starting this coming week, so we'll see if they feel a hole there that only general petraeus can fill in terms of information. >> candy crowley for us this morning. candy, nice to see you. and, of course, keep it here for
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state of the union. it starts in about nine minutes at 9:00 a.m. eastern time. be sure to tune in right here on cnn. the presidential campaign has come and gone, but not without leaving us some pretty hilarious and unforgettable moments. comedian dean obadahllah is ready to share his favorite moments of 2012 right after this. ♪ ♪
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>> i still love you, america. i do, but you've hurt my feelings very, very much. >> father.
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hello, father. >> hello, tag. >> i'm so very angry, father. i wish i could punch america in the face. i do. >> now, now. this is not a time for anger, tag. >> so what's next for you, father? >> oh, i don't know. there's so much i want to see and do. i would like to learn how mayonnaise is mad, as i like mayonnaise very, very much. >> finally the 2012 presidential campaign is over and in the history books, but not without giving us some moments we will remember, for sure, for years to come. candidates from rick perry to the president himself all made their share of goofs, bloopers, and blunders. our friend comedian dean obadallah has made a list of his favorites. i want to get to your list, but i want our viewers, first, to take a look at the moment at the top of your list. herman cain talking foreign
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policy. >> when they asked me who is the presses of ubekiki stanstan, i'm going to say i don't know, do you know? >> bekibeki stanstan? >> i think when he said that comedians around the country said that's our guy. that's the guy we want to have the nomination, and he sang the song "imagine there's no pizza." i mean, sometimes they do things intentionally funny and unintentionally funny. we appreciate both as comedians, and herman cain had a lot of potential to be a great candidate xheedically. >> rick peri, we can't forget his big oops. that also made your list. a painful time trying to remember the third of three federal agencies that he said he was going to cut as president, but let's watch this. >> it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education, and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. >> there are five. >> oh, five. okay.
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commerce, education, and the, um, um -- >> e.p.a.? >> e.p.a. there you go. no, again, thanks. >> i think that was mitt romney, ron paul trying to help the guy out, right? >> they were trying to help him out. you know what, it's funny. rick perry has a sense of humor. at the time i'm sure he wasn't laughing. at the time he can do commercials for memory loss, gingko biloba. he might as well profit when he leaves the governorship in texas. >> he made your list because you think he sent a body double to that first debate with romney? >> i think that or a zombie. i'm not sure what happened. maybe it wasn't on his schedule. he just showed up, and said what are these people doing here. i can assure you it was not funny at the time it was going on. in retrospect they can say what are you thinking? have some red bull. drink some coffee. get in the game here. i think people can laugh and have a good time, but it is
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very -- maybe it was jay ferrell from saturday night live. >> romney had his share of moments too. your favorite, though, were his commen comments. >> find some women that are also qualified and so we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who are backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. i went to a number of women's groups and said can you help us find folks, and they brought us whole binders full of women. >> yeah. big oops, huh? >> well, i had binders full of women when i was a teenager. i hid them under my bed so my mom wouldn't see them. i could have told him a lot of amazing women he could have picked for that cabinet at the time. i think -- >> i don't think that's the kind of binder he was talking about. >> really? i wasn't sure about that, but that was definitely a funny moment. that and big bird. i think they were very even. i wasn't sure which one to go with there, but binders of women made me laugh more.
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>> what about clint eastwood? was his empty chair stunt at the republican national convention a big oops for you? >> well, it was -- i think it was, and i think rick perry and clint eastwood today 2016, the ticket space political cowboys touring the country, talking to empty chairs and talking to audiences and forgetting things. at that moment i think that we were laughing clint eastwood was laughing, mitt romney probably not laughing at that moment, but it was a funny moment, and it made clint eastwood very endearing on some level. >> quickly, one of my favorite moments. this one right here. the big bear hug. there you go. the president's big bear hug. that was a good one. >> that was a great moment of being embraced by this guy who clearly was very strong and liked president obama a great deal. you know, optics are everything. that sent a great message that a blue collar tough guy was embracing president obama literally embracing. >> i can't believe security didn't take him down, but it was a good moment. dean, nice to see you. thanks for the laughs this
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